Incredible! Tigran Hamasyan: "Vortex" (Feat. Tosin Abasi) | Homemade Playthrough

Incredible! Tigran Hamasyan: “Vortex” (Feat. Tosin Abasi) | Homemade Playthrough

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🗺️ Finally here is a (seriously home made) playthrough of a track from #TheCallWithin album called “𝐕𝐎𝐑𝐓Է𝐗” (featuring Tosin Abasi). I have written the main melody/ bass line of this when I was back in collage (I still have a demo of it with super cheesy sounding synth solo). But over the years the tune developed and was finally ready to be documented!

🕶️ It was a great pleasure and an honor to have Tosin Abasi lay his super awesome guitars on the original track. I would like to also thank Evan Marien and Arthur Hnatek for slaying it as well!

👉 Listen and order the album here: https://tigranhamasyan.lnk.to/TheCallWithin

Worth to mention that the character Է (=Latin E) is the seventh letter of the Armenian alphabet, and it corresponds to the word Essence [éutiun]. This letter represents the ‘essence of life’. Like the essence of life, this piece is in a constant motion represented by a vortex rotating in cycles of large and small sevens.

#TigranHamasyan #TosinAbasi #EvanMarien #ArthurHnatek
#tigranhamasyan #thecallwithin #jazz #VORTԷX #essenceoflife

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Charles Johnson Apr 25, 2022 • 11:14:08am

Had to re-do this post because those weird characters in the title were causing problems in the URL.

Eclectic Cyborg Apr 25, 2022 • 11:15:08am

Kevin McCarthy, Marge Greene, Elise Stefanik and others getting their picture taken at the southern border today. pic.twitter.com/QnkAR732Gd

— Ron Filipkowski 🇺🇦 (@RonFilipkowski) April 25, 2022

lawhawk Apr 25, 2022 • 11:18:56am

re: #2 Eclectic Cyborg

Not a migrant to be seen.

Same as with the Texas Abbott move that disrupted supply chains and caused billions in damages, most of it losses by the drivers stuck waiting for their vehicles to clear the checkpoints.

They found nothing.

It’s all a sham, but media will use the GOP press as templates for their own reporting, instead of showing that this is a sham.

lawhawk Apr 25, 2022 • 11:20:04am

Youtube Video

Charles Johnson Apr 25, 2022 • 11:21:53am

If Musk restores Trump’s account we’ll see the unprecedented collapse of a major social media platform. It really would be the last straw for many, many people.

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) April 25, 2022

No Malarkey! Apr 25, 2022 • 11:24:04am

Either that or the FSB is just trolling us now because nothing matters, LOL.

— Slava Ukrayini! (@aagcobb1) April 25, 2022

Eclectic Cyborg Apr 25, 2022 • 11:24:08am

re: #5 Charles Johnson

It’ll be Truth Social on a much larger scale.

No Malarkey! Apr 25, 2022 • 11:24:38am

re: #7 Eclectic Cyborg

It’ll be Truth Social on a much larger scale.

Except, you know, it actually works.

Dangerman Apr 25, 2022 • 11:25:42am

In our private chat with only Members, several are saying the only way to save our Republic is for Trump to call for Marshall (sic) law. I don’t know on those things. I just wanted you to tell him. They stole this election. We all know. They will destroy our country next. Please tell him to declassify as much as possible so we can go after Biden and anyone else!” Greene wrote to Meadows on January 17, 2021.

I can’t find the actual tweet

The reason she doesn’t remember this is that someone told her it’s “martial”.
She’s embarrassed and inconsolable//

Seriously though
Was she too clever saying ” Several” but not me, I don’t know. I’m just passing it along….

Backwoods_Sleuth Apr 25, 2022 • 11:29:47am

[Can’t find this tweet right now: twitter.com ]

Decatur Deb Apr 25, 2022 • 11:31:29am

Happy Alabama Confederate Memorial Day to those who observe.

Belafon Apr 25, 2022 • 11:32:25am

re: #10 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Can’t find this tweet right now: twitter.com ]

I’m guessing it’s one of those “User limits who can see their tweets” types because I cannot see the tweet here.

jaunte Apr 25, 2022 • 11:32:42am

Hey, @elonmusk it’s a great week to free @realDonaldTrump.

— House Republicans (@HouseGOP) April 25, 2022

Just Want To Watch It Burn Party

lawhawk Apr 25, 2022 • 11:38:19am

Once again, we have evidence of GOP trying to steal an election, interfere in certification, and otherwise disrupt election prep to end democracy. Their quest to prove Democrats were stealing election laid bare fact only the GOP was intent on ending democracy. GOP are the crooks. https://t.co/xlNm2MHbR2

— lawhawk #vaxxedforfamilyandcommunity (@lawhawk) April 25, 2022

Dopamine Fish Apr 25, 2022 • 11:38:36am

Oh Jesus H. Fucking Christ, our Republicans are now claiming the FRENCH rigged their elections. (Tweet contains a photo of a tweet from Wendy Rogers, one of the batshit crazies in the Arizona Senate, the woman in charge of the train wreck of a fraudit.)

A million chiropterans could excrete for a million years and yet not produce sufficient supplies to meet the descriptive needs of Wendy Rogers’s insanity. pic.twitter.com/2tSGLtVeI4

— Mike Dunford (@questauthority) April 25, 2022

Captain Ron Apr 25, 2022 • 11:40:55am

Source confirms GOP group chats discussing martial law: ‘If they ever get out, we have a problem’ https://t.co/NzPpJEltU8

— Raw Story (@RawStory) April 25, 2022

I hope there are chat logs.

Dopamine Fish Apr 25, 2022 • 11:41:48am

Jury trial! pic.twitter.com/6mwJZiWQJD

— OG JJ (@J_Dot_J) April 25, 2022

darthstar Apr 25, 2022 • 11:42:01am

🚨Putin has just lost another general. Another defeat, this time on the Western front. Congratulations to Président Macron (58 %) 🇫🇷! #FrenchElection2022 #presidentielles2022 pic.twitter.com/0Bo5QUrbGl

— Mathias Ulmann (@MathiasUlmann) April 24, 2022

Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Apr 25, 2022 • 11:42:11am

re: #15 Dopamine Fish

Oh Jesus H. Fucking Christ, our Republicans are now claiming the FRENCH rigged their elections. (Tweet contains a photo of a tweet from Wendy Rogers, one of the batshit crazies in the Arizona Senate, the woman in charge of the train wreck of a fraudit.)

I was wondering how long that was going to take.

Where was Michel LePence when they needed him?

aatharuv Apr 25, 2022 • 11:42:36am

Russia has sent a formal diplomatic note to the US asking the US to stop sending Ukraine military assistance.

Russian Ambassador to the United States, Anatoly Antonov, has said Moscow has sent a diplomatic note to Washington demanding the US stop sending military aid to Ukraine.

— Will Vernon (@BBCWillVernon) April 25, 2022

newsweek.com

They’re also claiming that the US Sanctions have made it for Russian diplomatic outposts in the US to continue to function, including Bank of America closing the accounts of their Houston and New York consulates.

news.antiwar.com

Eclectic Cyborg Apr 25, 2022 • 11:43:38am

That’s too bad.

Anyway, what’s for lunch?

Belafon Apr 25, 2022 • 11:44:22am

re: #17 Dopamine Fish

This is what happens when you stop teaching government.

Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Apr 25, 2022 • 11:44:41am

re: #20 aatharuv

Russia has sent a formal diplomatic note to the US asking the US to stop sending Ukraine military assistance.

Who started sending weapons to Ukraine in the first place?

Russians embassies and consulates can just barter or pay in kind: precious gems, caviar, Fabergé eggs, etc…

aatharuv Apr 25, 2022 • 11:46:12am

re: #23 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Who started sending weapons to Ukraine in the first place?

Russians embassies and consulates can just barter or pay in kind: caviar, Fabergé eggs, etc…

Or in bribes acquired from corrupt officials and/or businessmen in previous postings..

Captain Ron Apr 25, 2022 • 11:49:18am

The 1970s called, they want their fashion, hairdos, and furniture back.

— Yonxers (@Yonxers) April 25, 2022

lawhawk Apr 25, 2022 • 11:49:53am

re: #25 Dread Pirate Ron

Who wore it better?

Divine or that woman?

Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Apr 25, 2022 • 11:50:42am

re: #26 lawhawk

Who wore it better?

Divine or that woman?

Divine hands down

Belafon Apr 25, 2022 • 11:51:05am

re: #25 Dread Pirate Ron

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She definitely looks like she’s trying out for the villain role.

Charles Johnson Apr 25, 2022 • 11:52:29am

There it is. https://t.co/EzPtYMb8EH

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) April 25, 2022

No Malarkey! Apr 25, 2022 • 11:54:23am

re: #20 aatharuv

Russia has sent a formal diplomatic note to the US asking the US to stop sending Ukraine military assistance.

newsweek.com

They’re also claiming that the US Sanctions have made it for Russian diplomatic outposts in the US to continue to function, including Bank of America closing the accounts of their Houston and New York consulates.

news.antiwar.com

It sucks to be them.

Captain Magic Apr 25, 2022 • 11:54:36am

re: #29 Charles Johnson

How do you cancel a Twitter account, short of getting suspended?

Charles Johnson Apr 25, 2022 • 11:55:51am

AZ state senator Wendy Rogers is very upset that the fascist candidate lost in France, so of course that means the election was stolen and there has to be violence now.

Bad craziness. pic.twitter.com/kGIob6c220

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) April 25, 2022

Belafon Apr 25, 2022 • 11:57:25am

re: #32 Charles Johnson

She could have at least looked up when the French revolted against their own government.

Charles Johnson Apr 25, 2022 • 11:58:54am

I’m not going to bail out of Twitter right away. I want to see how bad it gets.

Dopamine Fish Apr 25, 2022 • 12:00:15pm

re: #34 Charles Johnson

I’m not going to bail out of Twitter right away. I want to see how bad it gets.

If he brings Donald Trump back, don’t even hesitate. Get the FUCK out.

jaunte Apr 25, 2022 • 12:00:38pm

BONER JOKES AND HITLER MEMES FOR ALL!!!

— Sleeping Giants (@slpng_giants) April 25, 2022

William Lewis Apr 25, 2022 • 12:01:23pm

Got my new refurbed Acer. It’s still only got the 4 gb and 128 gb nvme in it so I’m just playing a bit till the upgrades arrive tomorrow.

Took a bit of searching to find out how to get into the bios and then even more to turn off Secure Boot so I could thwack Windows. But I found the incantation and installed FreeBSD 13 from DVD. X org is loading now, XFCE to follow then we’ll see how well the video works. Probably won’t do much more than that since I’m going to reinstall tomorrow anyway but it’s fun for testing.

Still, light weight yet feels stronger than some I’ve owned with aluminum skins on it. The screws for the bottom are normal screws so that’ll be easier. Only thing missing for me is a SD card slot would have been nice, but I have one that’ll fit in the USB C slot.

Crush White Nationalism Apr 25, 2022 • 12:01:47pm

re: #15 Dopamine Fish

It’s called “sane people.”

— Jeff Flanagan (@JeffMFlanagan) April 25, 2022

Charles Johnson Apr 25, 2022 • 12:02:51pm

Twitter has plenty of problems now, but if you don’t think it can get a LOT worse you’re fooling yourself. https://t.co/EQTH0oLy42

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) April 25, 2022

lawhawk Apr 25, 2022 • 12:03:02pm

Folks already ceding this platform that has been so central to marginalized communities like mine disappoint the heck out of me. If you can’t even fight for your space on Twitter, how can I ever expect that you will fight for my civil rights or the civil rights of my community?

— Victoria Brownworth (@VABVOX) April 25, 2022

Backwoods_Sleuth Apr 25, 2022 • 12:05:11pm

re: #10 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Can’t find this tweet right now: twitter.com ]

the Lightning present Biden with a custom jersey pic.twitter.com/j4bp7SAoVL

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) April 25, 2022

Aaron redid this tweet:

The Tampa Bay Lightning are at the White House. I hope Biden jokes about serving them a Burger King buffet. pic.twitter.com/HrxXyCgqpG

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) April 25, 2022

steve_davis Apr 25, 2022 • 12:05:57pm

re: #6 No Malarkey!

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“Get a sweatshirt with some anarchy stuff on it, and some Sims, too!”

“We couldn’t find Sims 2. So we made it even worse for them and went with Sims 3.”

Crush White Nationalism Apr 25, 2022 • 12:13:28pm

re: #39 Charles Johnson

Elizabeth Tweets like she’s a teenager texting her friends.

Imagine every Nazi, racist, and covid or election disinformation yahoo that got banned returning, and every decent person leaving because of that. It would certainly be a big change. It would become exactly like the sites that scum set up specifically for the use of bigots.

— Jeff Flanagan (@JeffMFlanagan) April 25, 2022

Charles Johnson Apr 25, 2022 • 12:15:23pm

Savvy journalists’ take on Elon Musk: “Twitter is already awful. This won’t change anything.”

Floating above the unwashed masses on wings of privilege.

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) April 25, 2022

Charles Johnson Apr 25, 2022 • 12:18:03pm

Journalists are being fucking insufferable about Musk. A bunch of snide privileged assholes.

Crush White Nationalism Apr 25, 2022 • 12:19:05pm

BREAKING: Twitter announces it will go private after agreeing to deal with Elon Musk worth $44 billionhttps://t.co/u6uZuC2W1w

— CNBC Now (@CNBCnow) April 25, 2022

jaunte Apr 25, 2022 • 12:19:24pm

“How could Rupert Murdoch screw up TV news any worse than it is already?”

Romantic Heretic Apr 25, 2022 • 12:20:08pm

re: #20 aatharuv

The correct return to that request is, “Fuck off!”

Not diplomatic but bullies like Putin regard courtesy as weakness.

Charles Johnson Apr 25, 2022 • 12:20:52pm

When you turn this platform into Parler on acid and let it become a tool for fascists to launch increasingly violent attacks like they did on January 6, I hope people find a way to sue you for everything you have.

— Walter Shaub (@waltshaub) April 25, 2022

Crush White Nationalism Apr 25, 2022 • 12:21:43pm

If he does half of what right-wingers want him to do, this is a huge opportunity for anyone who wants to create a Twitter replacement for people who reject fascism.

— Jeff Flanagan (@JeffMFlanagan) April 25, 2022

Charles Johnson Apr 25, 2022 • 12:23:26pm

If Batman was real he’d be the world’s least weird billionaire

— Frankie Boyle (@frankieboyle) April 25, 2022

Crush White Nationalism Apr 25, 2022 • 12:24:35pm

We’ve seen how this actually goes. If you allow fascists to come back, decent people will leave. This is a huge opportunity for a Twitter competitor. pic.twitter.com/pjXDTU42xc

— Jeff Flanagan (@JeffMFlanagan) April 25, 2022

Belafon Apr 25, 2022 • 12:24:41pm

re: #50 Punish Domestic Terrorists

It would need to be able to be as big as Twitter, as in nearly the same ability to process incoming messages. As was pointed out above, it has been a lifeline for minorities. Think of how many videos have ended up there that otherwise wouldn’t have gone public.

Charles Johnson Apr 25, 2022 • 12:26:30pm

1/ Musk acquiring Twitter has a lot of parallels to Roger Ailes/Murdoch starting Fox News in late 90s. When they started Fox News, they saw it as the balance to the “liberal media.” Similarly, Musk sees Twitter as the balance to the rest of social media disinfo/extremism policies

— Angelo Carusone (@GoAngelo) April 25, 2022

2/ Put another way, Musk will unwind a whole range of very basic protections against harassment, abuse, disinformation. Effectively, he’ll open the flood gates of hate and lies. And, he’ll use Twitter as a cudgel against other social media companies to press them to backslide.

— Angelo Carusone (@GoAngelo) April 25, 2022

3/ Musk will claim this is about free speech. But, it’s actually about ideology. He made that clear, like when talked about the need for liberals/others to become red pilled. Now, he’ll have a massive engine to red pill many. Red pilling isn’t free speech, it’s radicalizing.

— Angelo Carusone (@GoAngelo) April 25, 2022

4/ With this sale, you can fully expect Trump’s account to be restored along with a whole host of other accounts that engaged in abuse, harassment and repeated violations of Twitter’s rules. The race to the bottom begins.

— Angelo Carusone (@GoAngelo) April 25, 2022

5/ That said, there are two things that should happen immediately. 1) I pulled Twitter’s top advertisers. They should be contacted and urged to commit that if Twitter becomes a free for all, that they will walk; and, 2) Apple needs to promise no special treatment.

— Angelo Carusone (@GoAngelo) April 25, 2022

6/ When Apple sent a warning and ultimately sanctioned Parler from the App Store, it mattered a lot. It forced a major change there. Now, at the time, Apple gave Facebook a pass. They shouldn’t have. So what’s this have to do with Musk/Twitter…

— Angelo Carusone (@GoAngelo) April 25, 2022

7/ Apple should make clear and reiterate that Twitter won’t get special treatment. Some of what Musk plans to do will violate Apple’s requirements for the App Store and Apple needs to make it clear they will enforce their rules and uphold their requirements.

— Angelo Carusone (@GoAngelo) April 25, 2022

darthstar Apr 25, 2022 • 12:26:46pm

Looks like Musk just bought Twitter.

counter.social

Dangerman Apr 25, 2022 • 12:28:03pm

re: #15 Dopamine Fish

if you know he stole it, why do the french have to dig deeper?
this fast - one day - and you know? wow.
and clearly somehow you are in a position to know. double wow. cudos.
so what do you know?
because if you know he stole it, then you know how.
you can prove it! go down in history! be a hero!!!

after all the ‘french patriots’ could eff this all up if you leave it to them.
(look how badly the R’s did on 1/6)

only you can save us!!

stupid has so many levels

darthstar Apr 25, 2022 • 12:28:51pm

So…what does Twitter going private mean for people who own stock in Twitter? Do they all get a cash buyout? Or is it being converted to Dogecoin?

So $TWTR is the new Dogecoin? pic.twitter.com/u9jomTAlIi

— Sean McCabe (@sean_s_mc) April 25, 2022

Charles Johnson Apr 25, 2022 • 12:31:43pm

Before Elon Musk and Twitter got to a deal, House Republicans threatened the company’s board with political retribution if they didn’t sell. Outright gangsterism. https://t.co/hWPXpSpHcd

— Matthew Gertz (@MattGertz) April 25, 2022

Hecuba's daughter Apr 25, 2022 • 12:32:05pm

re: #57 darthstar

So…what does Twitter going private mean for people who own stock in Twitter? Do they all get a cash buyout? Or is it being converted to Dogecoin?

You should get money.

Crush White Nationalism Apr 25, 2022 • 12:33:11pm

She looks dangerously thin.

Teen with ‘longest legs in the world’ reaching new heights — on OnlyFans (without nudity) (NY Post)

JC1 Apr 25, 2022 • 12:34:41pm

re: #57 darthstar

So…what does Twitter going private mean for people who own stock in Twitter? Do they all get a cash buyout? Or is it being converted to Dogecoin?

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They’ll get 54.20/share. Nice payday. Decent premium over where the stock was trading recently.

Charles Johnson Apr 25, 2022 • 12:34:46pm

So, if you’re just an average American who thinks somehow Musk or some other billionaire is going to enhance the voice of the little guy on the Internet, you are a hopeless sucker who’s not paying attention.

— David Rothkopf (@djrothkopf) April 25, 2022

Charles Johnson Apr 25, 2022 • 12:35:20pm

Taking a moment to think about how utterly crazy it is that in 2022 a company with a significant dataset of private and public communications, that has municipalities, companies and governments on the platform, can switch ownership with pretty much zero scrutiny

— emily bell (@emilybell) April 25, 2022

Barefoot Grin Apr 25, 2022 • 12:38:27pm

Xeni taking the news in stride:

We’ll meet again. Don’t know where. Don’t know when. But I know we’ll meet again, some sunny day. pic.twitter.com/OWHky82haq

— Xeni 🌻 (@xeni) April 25, 2022

JC1 Apr 25, 2022 • 12:38:34pm

re: #63 Charles Johnson

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Musk doesn’t control any other media companies, so antitrust concerns don’t apply. Not sure what other scrutiny the government can do.

Dangerman Apr 25, 2022 • 12:38:34pm

re: #60 Punish Domestic Terrorists

She looks dangerously thin.

Teen with ‘longest legs in the world’ reaching new heights — on OnlyFans (without nudity) (NY Post)

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teen with the longest legs in the world?

I saw ‘teen’, ‘female’, even ‘texan’ in the article.
didnt see ‘human’ anywhere

Crush White Nationalism Apr 25, 2022 • 12:38:43pm

She’s promising the impossible. Florida man will continue to say “hold my beer” then do something that gets into the news.

As governor, I’ll make sure Florida stops trending every day for the dumbest reasons.

— Nikki Fried (@NikkiFried) April 24, 2022

Belafon Apr 25, 2022 • 12:39:21pm

re: #60 Punish Domestic Terrorists

She looks dangerously thin.

Teen with ‘longest legs in the world’ reaching new heights — on OnlyFans (without nudity) (NY Post)

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How tall is she?

Charles Johnson Apr 25, 2022 • 12:39:32pm

Thereby confirming that he can’t wait to get back on Twitter. https://t.co/xLt94SGmIg

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) April 25, 2022

aatharuv Apr 25, 2022 • 12:39:46pm

re: #30 No Malarkey!

It sucks to be them.

Of course, the question now is, what will Russia prioritize? Paying its assets in the US, or not getting their consulates’ sewage cut off.

Hard decisions :-)

I wonder if half of the reason, is to make it harder for Russia to deal with its US assets now that normal funding channels are increasingly being cut off.

Crush White Nationalism Apr 25, 2022 • 12:40:33pm

re: #68 Belafon

6’10” Tall enough to have health problems.

Decatur Deb Apr 25, 2022 • 12:41:02pm

The way the deal has been represented, the Twits pretty much have to take the deal. That’s the capitalist catechism. If you think that sucks, take the next mental leap.

Eclectic Cyborg Apr 25, 2022 • 12:41:46pm

Any day now, probably:

Crush White Nationalism Apr 25, 2022 • 12:41:46pm

re: #69 Charles Johnson

He’ll want Musk to beg him to come back. Sometimes his NPD helps the nation.

Eclectic Cyborg Apr 25, 2022 • 12:42:03pm

re: #71 Punish Domestic Terrorists

6’10” Tall enough to have health problems.

Indeed. That’s a lot of body for a heart to move blood around.

darthstar Apr 25, 2022 • 12:42:21pm

Well…this is sad…not.

Rosneft huge oil tender fails after it demands rouble payment -traders https://t.co/LHHPUSHmEd pic.twitter.com/LImwxbhX4B

— Reuters (@Reuters) April 25, 2022

Dangerman Apr 25, 2022 • 12:45:16pm

re: #67 Punish Domestic Terrorists

She’s promising the impossible. Florida man will continue to say “hold my beer” then do something that gets into the news.

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maybe, at least for a while, florida man will not be synonymous with florida government

Crush White Nationalism Apr 25, 2022 • 12:45:20pm

I know I’m not if he brings back the people who are so toxic that they managed to get banned on this very permissive platform. He seems to be spending a lot of money on something he doesn’t understand, but it’s getting him cheered on by the radicalized-right.

— Jeff Flanagan (@JeffMFlanagan) April 25, 2022

Dangerman Apr 25, 2022 • 12:45:52pm

re: #68 Belafon

How tall is she?

the texan is 6’10”

aatharuv Apr 25, 2022 • 12:46:02pm

re: #76 darthstar

Well…this is sad…not.

Interestingly enough, India’s state-owned refiners refused to bid at all.

Charles Johnson Apr 25, 2022 • 12:46:32pm

Goddammit Dave, what have you done?! https://t.co/RexVGgEcVR

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) April 25, 2022

Crush White Nationalism Apr 25, 2022 • 12:46:34pm

re: #77 Dangerman

maybe, at least for a while, florida man will not be synonymous with florida government

Not with the executive branch, anyway. Congress and the courts will still be wacky.
It takes a long while to fix something as broken as Florida is.

Charles Johnson Apr 25, 2022 • 12:47:16pm

Chuck C. Johnson is probably already trying to contact Musk to get his account back.

cat-tikvah Apr 25, 2022 • 12:48:13pm

Billy Bragg song on libertarian utopias

Freedom Doesn’t Come for Free
Come all good people and gather ‘round
Let me tell you how it all went down
When a bunch of libertarians came to town
To build their own utopia…

Youtube Video

Crush White Nationalism Apr 25, 2022 • 12:49:10pm

re: #83 Charles Johnson

Chuck C. Johnson is probably already trying to contact Musk to get his account back.

That no-talent bigoted clown is very ambitious, so I expect so.

Dangerman Apr 25, 2022 • 12:54:03pm

with all its faults, twitter became the de-facto because there was nothing else.
they kind of defined that message medium.

all these years, not a lot of credible alternatives

now you can pretty much buy a twitter equiv in a box
isn’t that what truth social effed up so badly?

granted you also need scads of speed and processing power

if musk et al poison the twit environment enough, mass migratory opportunities and paths are now possible

Decatur Deb Apr 25, 2022 • 12:55:45pm

If Musk makes Twitter a worse slum and loses half his investment, he won’t care. That’s the thing about Go-Fuck-All-Y’all money.

Belafon Apr 25, 2022 • 12:57:28pm

re: #86 Dangerman

You would need a place that could handle Beyoncé and her 2 million followers switching all at once.

Dangerman Apr 25, 2022 • 12:58:04pm

.”Shares of Digital World Acquisition Corp., the blank-check company poised to take Donald Trump’s media venture public, fell in volatile trading on Monday after Twitter announced a take-private deal with Elon Musk.”
“The stock had fallen more than 12% Monday, bringing its year-to-date losses to over 30%. The special purpose acquisition company is on track to merge with the former president’s Trump Media & Technology Group.”

…….cnbc

Barefoot Grin Apr 25, 2022 • 12:59:09pm

re: #84 cat-tikvah

Billy Bragg song on libertarian utopias

Freedom Doesn’t Come for Free
Come all good people and gather ‘round
Let me tell you how it all went down
When a bunch of libertarians came to town
To build their own utopia…

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Video

When I saw the first few verses I thought, “ha, a song for the Free Staters!” Then when he explicitly mentioned NH, I knew it was probably based on a recent book about a northern town taken over by Free Staters that indeed went to seed and got overrun by bears when people weren’t held responsible for cleaning up or properly disposing of garbage.

Barefoot Grin Apr 25, 2022 • 1:00:44pm

re: #84 cat-tikvah

Billy Bragg song on libertarian utopias

Freedom Doesn’t Come for Free
Come all good people and gather ‘round
Let me tell you how it all went down
When a bunch of libertarians came to town
To build their own utopia…

[Embedded content]

Video

And sure enough:

Freedom Doesn’t Come for Free is based on a book I read during lockdown, called ‘A Libertarian Walks Into a Bear’ about what happened when some libertarians tried to create a rural utopia with no rules and regulations in Grafton New Hampshire #timstwitterlisteningparty

— Billy Bragg (@billybragg) October 29, 2021

Sherlock Hound Apr 25, 2022 • 1:02:14pm

re: #19 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I was wondering how long that was going to take.

Where was Michel LePence when they needed him?

Maréchal LePence.

JC1 Apr 25, 2022 • 1:03:59pm

re: #88 Belafon

You would need a place that could handle Beyoncé and her 2 million followers switching all at once.

With cloud computing, you can scale as fast as you need, provided that you can pay the bill at the end of the month. But if you’re signing up millions of users then either funding from VCs or revenue from advertising shouldn’t be a problem.

Backwoods_Sleuth Apr 25, 2022 • 1:05:33pm

Man it would be hilarious if I got more followers than Elon Musk all of a sudden.

— Half An Onion (@HalfOnionInABag) April 25, 2022

Crush White Nationalism Apr 25, 2022 • 1:06:25pm

re: #93 JC1

With cloud computing, you can scale as fast as you need, provided that you can pay the bill at the end of the month. But if you’re signing up millions of users then either funding from VCs or revenue from advertising shouldn’t be a problem.

If you’re capable of building software that scales, which seems to be beyond the American-far-right, but most mainstream IT companies could handle it.

Charles Johnson Apr 25, 2022 • 1:06:50pm

I registered Green_Footballs on CounterSocial a few days ago if anyone wants to follow. Not sure how much I’ll be using it.

Backwoods_Sleuth Apr 25, 2022 • 1:07:06pm

and before the slavish fanboys arrive en masse, no, i’m not going anywhere because i love a dumb fucking mess

— Bobby Lewis (@revrrlewis) April 25, 2022

Sherlock Hound Apr 25, 2022 • 1:07:23pm

re: #40 lawhawk

Amen to this. The disabled community has thrived on Twitter. I have learned a great deal from my fellow friends and colleagues in what is the most invisible minority in the world.

Crush White Nationalism Apr 25, 2022 • 1:07:47pm

re: #94 Backwoods_Sleuth

Even an extremely rotten half of an onion is trying to exploit this. That profile pic is OLD, we know what he looks like now.

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Dangerman Apr 25, 2022 • 1:09:06pm

re: #93 JC1

With cloud computing, you can scale as fast as you need, provided that you can pay the bill at the end of the month. But if you’re signing up millions of users then either funding from VCs or revenue from advertising shouldn’t be a problem.

right
i didnt say easy, cheap or likely
just judy tenuta ‘it could happen’
where it didnt used to couldnt

mass exodus / right circumstances is all

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Crush White Nationalism Apr 25, 2022 • 1:09:15pm

re: #97 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m pretty sure he makes more cars that don’t explode than those that do by a significant margin.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Apr 25, 2022 • 1:09:16pm

I REGRET NOTHING

— Donaeld The Unready (@donaeldunready) April 25, 2022

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darthstar Apr 25, 2022 • 1:12:27pm

It would kinda dope if Musk bought Twitter and just shut it off…. Lol

— ICE T (@FINALLEVEL) April 25, 2022

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Charles Johnson Apr 25, 2022 • 1:13:06pm

How much housing could he have provided, how many meals for starving people, how many children could he have raised out of poverty if he took that $44 billion and spent it on actually helping humanity?

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Charles Johnson Apr 25, 2022 • 1:13:39pm

I know we’re not even supposed to ask that question of these super-rich bastards.

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Eclectic Cyborg Apr 25, 2022 • 1:14:30pm

re: #104 Charles Johnson

You expect rich people to spend their money helping others?

Half /

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Crush White Nationalism Apr 25, 2022 • 1:14:49pm

Jared Padalecki was forced to drop out of a convention appearance on Sunday after the actor found himself in a “very bad” car accident, according to his Supernatural co-star Jensen Ackles. Ackles took the stage at a convention for the show, where he revealed that Padalecki had to stay home and recuperate after the accident.
“I miss my buddy. He sends his love. I spoke with him yesterday. He’s sad he can’t be here,” Ackles told the crowd gathered. That’s when he revealed the harrowing accident details. “He was in a very bad car accident. He wasn’t driving. He was in the passenger seat, and he’s lucky to be alive.”

According to Ackles, Padalecki is sore but well after hitting the car’s airbags.

“That airbag packs a punch. He’s like, ‘I feel like I went 12 rounds with Tyson.’ But he is doing OK, and he’s moving around,” Ackles added. “But yeah, [it was a] really, really bad car accident. Just keep him in your thoughts, send him some love if you get a chance on social and he’ll be back with us soon.”

Supernatural Star Jared Padalecki Involved in Very Bad Car Accident (comicbook.com)

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jaunte Apr 25, 2022 • 1:14:54pm

For some reason “apartheid emerald mine heir” and “helping humanity” don’t appear in the same universe of Venn diagrams.

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Belafon Apr 25, 2022 • 1:16:14pm

I just also want to know why the rich liberals aren’t buying stuff like this. We have a few that could do it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Apr 25, 2022 • 1:16:53pm

Standing tall at 5’3, @MuggsyBogues played 14 years in the NBA.

At 9:45am, a conversation with him about his perseverance and new book Muggsy: My Life from a Kid in the Projects to the Godfather of Small Ball https://t.co/E9FSOwrcbP pic.twitter.com/mabuNS7wr6

— CBC Radio: The Current (@TheCurrentCBC) April 21, 2022

Congrats, @MuggsyBogues 👏👏

📰: https://t.co/wu2KKtYCwg pic.twitter.com/sbif5B7PUH

— Wake Basketball (@WakeMBB) April 22, 2022

Crazy Fact Most People Didn’t Know #5:

Tyrone “Muggsy” Bogues is the shortest player in NBA history at 5’ 3”, but did you know that he blocked 39 shots on taller players in his career. Bogues even blocked Knicks HOF Patrick Ewing. Size doesn’t matter, skill does. @MuggsyBogues pic.twitter.com/BMlAx0slRi

— Basketball Muse (@Basketball_Muse) April 25, 2022

Cooking up something special with my brother @RexChapman pic.twitter.com/pkNlAeFnya

— Tyrone Muggsy Bogues (@MuggsyBogues) April 20, 2022

There will be never be another one like him. @MuggsyBogues turned conventional wisdom on its head. Snatch-game… pic.twitter.com/cLMoHU84kI

— Rex Chapman🏇🏼 (@RexChapman) April 25, 2022

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Crush White Nationalism Apr 25, 2022 • 1:17:18pm

re: #108 jaunte

For some reason “apartheid emerald mine heir” and “helping humanity” don’t appear in the same universe of Venn diagrams.

He says he didn’t get money from his dad, and made his own. If so, the emerald heir thing is just propaganda meant to make him look bad based on relationship rather than his own actions. I don’t know what the real deal is.

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darthstar Apr 25, 2022 • 1:17:54pm

re: #96 Charles Johnson

I registered Green_Footballs on CounterSocial a few days ago if anyone wants to follow. Not sure how much I’ll be using it.

Jester seems like a pretty decent fellow…a little full of himself at times, but that’s not uncommon. With autoscaling in AWS the site could quickly overtake Truth Social as a social media platform.

Oh, and he wields the ban hammer about as efficiently as you do. No bullshit.

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Sherlock Hound Apr 25, 2022 • 1:19:51pm

re: #112 darthstar

Jester seems like a pretty decent fellow…a little full of himself at times, but that’s not uncommon. With autoscaling in AWS the site could quickly overtake Truth Social as a social media platform.

Oh, and he wields the ban hammer about as efficiently as you do. No bullshit.

Moderation doesn’t scale as easily as infrastructure does.

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Crush White Nationalism Apr 25, 2022 • 1:20:39pm

re: #112 darthstar

Jester seems like a pretty decent fellow…a little full of himself at times, but that’s not uncommon. With autoscaling in AWS the site could quickly overtake Truth Social as a social media platform.

Oh, and he wields the ban hammer about as efficiently as you do. No bullshit.

If he’s full of himself as admin of a tiny service that I had not even heard of until today, that could get entirely out of hand if it became popular because of Musk meddling at Twitter.

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jaunte Apr 25, 2022 • 1:20:45pm

re: #111 Punish Domestic Terrorists

I think he was helped along by his father’s wealth:

He briefly attended the University of Pretoria before moving to Canada at age 17 to avoid conscription. He was enrolled at Queen’s University and transferred to the University of Pennsylvania two years later, where he received a bachelor’s degree in economics and physics. He moved to California in 1995 to attend Stanford University but decided instead to pursue a business career, co-founding the web software company Zip2 with his brother Kimbal. The startup was acquired by Compaq for $307 million in 1999. The same year, Musk co-founded online bank x.com, which merged with Confinity in 2000 to form PayPal. The company was bought by eBay in 2002 for $1.5 billion.en.wikipedia.org

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Crush White Nationalism Apr 25, 2022 • 1:22:02pm

re: #113 Sherlock Hound

Moderation doesn’t scale as easily as infrastructure does.

Right, and it’s something that a person with a small site has little experience with.
Even this site could go to hell with a massive influx of users.

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Belafon Apr 25, 2022 • 1:22:22pm

re: #115 jaunte

I think he was helped along by his father’s wealth:

How big was his bank account when he graduated?

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Dr Lizardo Apr 25, 2022 • 1:22:30pm

Elon Musk told the United Nations he would give them $6 billion to end world hunger if they showed him a detailed plan of how they would use the money. They called his bluff and gave him their plan— and then they never got the money. Now he’s buying Twitter for $45 billion.

— No Lie with Brian Tyler Cohen (@NoLieWithBTC) April 25, 2022

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Charles Johnson Apr 25, 2022 • 1:23:24pm

I’m not bailing out on Twitter unless things really go to the ninth circle of hell. It still isn’t weird enough for me.

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Crush White Nationalism Apr 25, 2022 • 1:24:16pm

re: #115 jaunte

I think he was helped along by his father’s wealth:

That’s definitely a possibility. We do not know where the money for his startups came from, so his wealthy father seems like a likely source.

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jaunte Apr 25, 2022 • 1:24:21pm

re: #117 Belafon

No idea, but most 20-somethings don’t pull up stakes from country to country without a nest egg.

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GlutenFreeJesus Apr 25, 2022 • 1:29:06pm

re: #119 Charles Johnson

I’m not bailing out on Twitter unless things really go to the ninth circle of hell. It still isn’t weird enough for me.

It’ll only take me the 2nd or 3rd circle of Hell. I don’t expect to be on Twitter much longer.

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darthstar Apr 25, 2022 • 1:29:44pm

re: #114 Punish Domestic Terrorists

If he’s full of himself as admin of a tiny service that I had not even heard of until today, that could get entirely out of hand if it became popular because of Musk meddling at Twitter.

He’s a former hacker who had some big hacks a while back. His laptop is on display at the international spy museum in DC So when someone starts getting under his skin on Twitter he’ll talk in hints at how he can find out about them in a second if he wants…that kind of self-aggrandizement. The site runs pretty much on autopilot - a lot like this place - only he doesn’t do regular front page threads as far as I’ve noticed.

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Teukka Apr 25, 2022 • 1:29:52pm

Eadem stercore diversus dies…

#BREAKING Russia’s Lavrov warns of ‘real’ danger of World War III pic.twitter.com/PUPFnBOV8F

— AFP News Agency (@AFP) April 25, 2022

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darthstar Apr 25, 2022 • 1:30:42pm

re: #122 GlutenFreeJesus

It’ll only take me the 2nd or 3rd circle of Hell. I don’t expect to be on Twitter much longer.

I don’t see anyone leaving Twitter because it’s now owned by Musk. It’s too much of a shit-show which is why most people are there in the first place.

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Belafon Apr 25, 2022 • 1:31:01pm

re: #124 Teukka

Eadem stercore diversus dies…

You and what tank factory, Lavrov?

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Belafon Apr 25, 2022 • 1:32:20pm

re: #125 darthstar

I don’t see anyone leaving Twitter because it’s now owned by Musk. It’s too much of a shit-show which is why most people are there in the first place.

Most people are there because most people are there. Like facebook, you can’t really get off unless everyone you’re connected to also goes somewhere else.

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Charles Johnson Apr 25, 2022 • 1:33:01pm

re: #112 darthstar

Jester seems like a pretty decent fellow…a little full of himself at times, but that’s not uncommon. With autoscaling in AWS the site could quickly overtake Truth Social as a social media platform.

Oh, and he wields the ban hammer about as efficiently as you do. No bullshit.

I don’t know much about him, but I’ve heard from more than a few people now who don’t trust him at all.

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Crush White Nationalism Apr 25, 2022 • 1:35:31pm

re: #123 darthstar

He’s a former hacker who had some big hacks a while back. His laptop is on display at the international spy museum in DC So when someone starts getting under his skin on Twitter he’ll talk in hints at how he can find out about them in a second if he wants…that kind of self-aggrandizement. The site runs pretty much on autopilot - a lot like this place - only he doesn’t do regular front page threads as far as I’ve noticed.

That’s extremely creepy.

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Florida Panhandler Apr 25, 2022 • 1:40:06pm

re: #13 jaunte

Just Want To Watch It Burn Party

Just a note about Elon possibly inviting Trump back on Twitter… once Republicans gain control of our government they will enact legislation requiring all social media to allow all “Conservative voices” despite their fake phony fraud history of “keeping government out of business decisions.” Elon’s purchase doesn’t really matter much in this context except for his opportunities to cash in $$$ even more.

Our Trump SCOTUS will automatically uphold the new law 6-3 with all precedent and traditional Republican ideology thrown out the window.

Liberal” social media will also be subject to this legislation, “liberal” companies will have required Republican Party minders and we will be fascist country.

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Captain Ron Apr 25, 2022 • 1:41:21pm

NEW: For the 2nd time, Toyota has quietly resumed donating to Republicans who tried to overthrow the election after they said they would stop donating to them after the insurrection, per @JuddLegum.

— No Lie with Brian Tyler Cohen (@NoLieWithBTC) April 25, 2022

I mean they already want to charge you for features that are already on your car, of course they support the party that lets corporations rip people off with zero pushback. https://t.co/uX07Jg1QN8

— Matt•😷 (@mhill0425) April 25, 2022

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darthstar Apr 25, 2022 • 1:45:00pm

Great to see Lloyd Austin hug Reznikov but look at the former U.S. four star general when he greet General Zaluzhnyi, Ukraine’s commander in chief, that is one general looking at another with enormous respect. https://t.co/jTiXml3ntn

— Anders Östlund (@andersostlund) April 25, 2022

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Crush White Nationalism Apr 25, 2022 • 1:45:57pm

re: #131 Dread Pirate Ron

Can you buy enough Republicans to be able to do business here while leaving out the ones that betrayed the nation? We need to flush the Republicans out of power if we don’t want people buying favors from them.

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Captain Ron Apr 25, 2022 • 1:47:11pm

Incredible: Rick Perry denied sending text messages to Mark Meadows with suggestions about overturning the election results, except that he signed one of his text messages “Rick Perry” with his phone numberhttps://t.co/3GAFE15rjv

— Molly Hensley-Clancy (@mollyhc) April 25, 2022

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darthstar Apr 25, 2022 • 1:48:29pm

Golden 👌🏻 https://t.co/nenpVTtEUJ

— Kateryna_Kruk (@Kateryna_Kruk) April 25, 2022

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Backwoods_Sleuth Apr 25, 2022 • 1:54:38pm

Russia is a terrorist state https://t.co/TAawx2yO5P

— Olga Tokariuk (@olgatokariuk) April 25, 2022

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Crush White Nationalism Apr 25, 2022 • 1:55:51pm

re: #135 darthstar

Same as a certain subculture here.

This after the Sims thing, after the invasion in a column, makes it clear that autocracy breeds total incompetence. If the best can’t rise to the top, you get a culture of idiots.

— Jeff Flanagan (@JeffMFlanagan) April 25, 2022

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Dangerman Apr 25, 2022 • 2:00:18pm

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Crush White Nationalism Apr 25, 2022 • 2:02:17pm

The kooks now imagine that a magic bed can act like a science-fiction Autodoc, and grifters are ready to take their money.

In a popular QAnon chat group, a woman named Julie was selling hope and a $22,000 cancer treatment.

For “those interested in medbeds,” she wrote in a 36,000-member QAnon group on the chat platform Telegram, “FYI My husband uses a #medbed generator and 4 tesla biohealers for his stage 3 inoperable and aggressive salivary gland tumor. THIS technology is very supportive!”

The message might have sounded like gibberish to outside readers. But in this corner of the internet, where conspiracy theories and alternative health practices run wild, it suggested something barely short of a miracle: the arrival of a much-hyped device that followers think could treat aggressive cancer.

An increasingly popular conspiracy theory falsely centers around the existence of “med beds,” a fabled medical instrument that does everything from reversing aging to regrowing missing limbs. The theory has grown in popularity among followers of far-right movements like QAnon, some of whom claim to be urgently awaiting a med bed to treat severe health conditions.

New QAnon Conspiracy Involves a Magical Bed for Zombie JFK (The Daily Beast)

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darthstar Apr 25, 2022 • 2:04:12pm

re: #139 Punish Domestic Terrorists

The kooks now imagine that a magic bed can act like a science-fiction Autodoc, and grifters are ready to take their money.

New QAnon Conspiracy Involves a Magical Bed for Zombie JFK (The Daily Beast)

I remember when it only cost a quarter to make the bed vibrate.

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Charles Johnson Apr 25, 2022 • 2:04:56pm

My Twitter followers dropped by about 200.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Apr 25, 2022 • 2:05:17pm

This is the best biker jacket ever, I will brook no argument pic.twitter.com/hPaEYjSZnI

— John Scalzi (@scalzi) April 25, 2022

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Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion Apr 25, 2022 • 2:08:05pm

re: #139 Punish Domestic Terrorists

This isn’t new. I heard about this “medbed” shit in Qanon lore awhile ago.

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darthstar Apr 25, 2022 • 2:09:07pm

Imagine spending $46 billion dollars to stop people from posting this picture pic.twitter.com/5W5tqXZepV

— Santiago Mayer 🌻 (@santiagomayer_) April 25, 2022

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darthstar Apr 25, 2022 • 2:10:08pm

re: #141 Charles Johnson

My Twitter followers dropped by about 200.

Mine dropped by 2000+ when I got suspended. I have six now.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Apr 25, 2022 • 2:10:42pm

The right-wing narrative that I have heard every single day for 15 months, that Antifa/BLM infiltrators incited peaceful MAGAs on J6 - in Senate and House hearings, Tucker, Hannity, TV, social media, articles, books, videos - all started by a Jason Miller lie to Mark Meadows. pic.twitter.com/SOdl45HHeB

— Ron Filipkowski 🇺🇦 (@RonFilipkowski) April 25, 2022

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Eclectic Cyborg Apr 25, 2022 • 2:11:49pm

re: #146 Backwoods_Sleuth

I was actually surprised at the total lack of counter protesters on J6.

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A Three Hour Tour Apr 25, 2022 • 2:14:17pm

re: #123 darthstar

He’s a former hacker who had some big hacks a while back. His laptop is on display at the international spy museum in DC So when someone starts getting under his skin on Twitter he’ll talk in hints at how he can find out about them in a second if he wants…that kind of self-aggrandizement. The site runs pretty much on autopilot - a lot like this place - only he doesn’t do regular front page threads as far as I’ve noticed.

Louise Mensch tried sucking up to and hitching her star to him early in the Claude Taylor/Marshall of the Supreme Court/Eric Garland “game theory”/Secret President Orrin Hatch/”everyone who points out my claims don’t make sense is Russian deza” days, and he rebuffed her.

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Belafon Apr 25, 2022 • 2:14:23pm

re: #147 Eclectic Cyborg

I was actually surprised at the total lack of counter protesters on J6.

Because BLM and Antifa aren’t idiots.

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Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion Apr 25, 2022 • 2:18:03pm

re: #144 darthstar

I know it would look politically motivated, but I really wish someone (DOJ) would look into that a little more.

Frankly, anyone who didn’t personally invent something world changing that has a networth more than like 50 million dollars has done something shady to get it, and then done shadier things with it once they got it.

When you get to the point of “I have to invent things to spend money on” you start pushing boundaries, especially if you were already an asshole.

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aatharuv Apr 25, 2022 • 2:19:04pm

re: #147 Eclectic Cyborg

I was actually surprised at the total lack of counter protesters on J6.

If BLM and Antifa had been there in noticeable numbers, the Reich wing would have claimed that (Edit: the J6 insurrectionists) were protecting America against a BLM and Antifa coup to put Kamala Harris in charge instead of the “legitimate” president, Donald J Turd.

And the New York Times would be both-sidesing the story, as usual.

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GlutenFreeJesus Apr 25, 2022 • 2:21:54pm

re: #134 Dread Pirate Ron

It was Reek Perry. Speech-to-text isn’t 100% perfect…

— Oh. My. Glob. (@efuseakay) April 25, 2022

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Belafon Apr 25, 2022 • 2:22:02pm

re: #150 Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion

I know it would look politically motivated, but I really wish someone (DOJ) would look into that a little more.

Frankly, anyone who didn’t personally invent something world changing that has a networth more than like 50 million dollars has done something shady to get it, and then done shadier things with it once they got it.

When you get to the point of “I have to invent things to spend money on” you start pushing boundaries, especially if you were already an asshole.

As much as I cannot stand Musk and this deal with Twitter, I would call getting Tesla going and SpaceX landing rockets pretty world changing.

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Dr. Matt Apr 25, 2022 • 2:22:02pm

re: #147 Eclectic Cyborg

I was actually surprised at the total lack of counter protesters on J6.

“They were there and wearing Trump gear and waving maga flags”
-Dotard/Musk/Gym Jordan/MTG/Groomer Gatez

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Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion Apr 25, 2022 • 2:23:10pm

re: #153 Belafon

As much as I cannot stand Musk and this deal with Twitter, I would call getting Tesla going and SpaceX landing rockets pretty world changing.

He bought his way into both of those.

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Charles Johnson Apr 25, 2022 • 2:24:08pm

How much housing could he have built, how many meals for starving families, how many children raised out of poverty or educated, if he spent that $44 billion on actually helping humanity? But we’re not supposed to ask that question of these narcissistic billionaires.

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) April 25, 2022

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JC1 Apr 25, 2022 • 2:25:41pm

re: #155 Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion

He bought his way into both of those.

He started SpaceX and bought into Tesla VERY early.

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Belafon Apr 25, 2022 • 2:29:51pm

re: #155 Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion

He bought his way into both of those.

And Bill Gates and Steve Jobs were salesmen not inventors.

When he bought into them, as you say, they weren’t anywhere close to what they were after him. His “get it done and we’ll pay for it later” approach opened up the electric car market, put the US back in space, and has lead to Ukrainians having the internet during war.

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Eclectic Cyborg Apr 25, 2022 • 2:33:26pm

re: #158 Belafon

And Bill Gates and Steve Jobs were salesmen not inventors.

Indeed. Wozniak was the inventor at Apple.

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Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion Apr 25, 2022 • 2:33:46pm

re: #157 JC1

He started SpaceX and bought into Tesla VERY early.

Ok, he threw a bunch of money at Tom Mueller to make SpaceX. Musk isn’t an Engineer or a scientist. He didn’t invent shit. He’s an idea guy, but *most* of his ideas are bad. For every Tesla, there’s a Boring company and a Hyperloop fiasco. He’s a libertarian dude-bro with more money than sense who went from rich to crazy-rich off of two companies that depended on the Government (both contracts and straight up “hand-outs”) to get off the ground. Then proceeded to be the biggest annoying douchebag about it as he possibly could.

I’d also say, in a rational world, his COVID shenanigans both on social media and with Tesla employees would have him up on charges.

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JC1 Apr 25, 2022 • 2:36:04pm

re: #158 Belafon

And Bill Gates and Steve Jobs were salesmen not inventors.

When he bought into them, as you say, they weren’t anywhere close to what they were after him. His “get it done and we’ll pay for it later” approach opened up the electric car market, put the US back in space, and has lead to Ukrainians having the internet during war.

Gates was actually a solid developer in his early days. I knew people who worked at MSFT in the 90s. Gates still knew the intricacies of exactly how windows worked, and if you were presenting something and didn’t bring your A game, he’d know it and let you know it as well.

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JC1 Apr 25, 2022 • 2:39:06pm

re: #160 Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion

Ok, he threw a bunch of money at Tom Mueller to make SpaceX. Musk isn’t an Engineer or a scientist. He didn’t invent shit. He’s an idea guy, but *most* of his ideas are bad. For every Tesla, there’s a Boring company and a Hyperloop fiasco. He’s a libertarian dude-bro with more money than sense who went from rich to crazy-rich off of two companies that depended on the Government (both contracts and straight up “hand-outs”) to get off the ground. Then proceeded to be the biggest annoying douchebag about it as he possibly could.

I’d also say, in a rational world, his COVID shenanigans both on social media and with Tesla employees would have him up on charges.

And yet, Bezos throwing many more billions into Blue Origin hasn’t yielded nearly as much. All those companies throwing billions into EVs still haven’t caught up to TSLA (they will eventually, the valuation is unsustainable). No one bats 1.000. how many people managed to run successful businesses in multiple different fields?

You’re also forgetting PayPal and the web travel company he started.

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mmmirele Apr 25, 2022 • 2:40:12pm

re: #55 darthstar

Looks like Musk just bought Twitter.

counter.social

I’m there, under mirele. I absolutely DO NOT trust Musk.

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Hecuba's daughter Apr 25, 2022 • 2:42:24pm

re: #113 Sherlock Hound

Moderation doesn’t scale as easily as infrastructure does.

Moderation doesn’t scale at all — you need a computer algorithm to handle most of it. And then when the offender complains (as I complained when FB banned my post linking to nerdle — really FB, you objected to nerdle??? ), you have to have a staff that can investigate and that costs real money. Handling moderation is a nightmare when there are 200 million users and 500 million tweets daily.

In any case, I wonder if there was an agreement with Trump to allow him back on — that Twitter is now the new Truth Social. Since he is no longer President, he can elect to ban anyone posting a response to his tweets. The best of all worlds: say whatever he wants and never hear any criticism.

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Belafon Apr 25, 2022 • 2:42:45pm

re: #160 Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion

Ok, he threw a bunch of money at Tom Mueller to make SpaceX. Musk isn’t an Engineer or a scientist. He didn’t invent shit. He’s an idea guy, but *most* of his ideas are bad. For every Tesla, there’s a Boring company and a Hyperloop fiasco. He’s a libertarian dude-bro with more money than sense who went from rich to crazy-rich off of two companies that depended on the Government (both contracts and straight up “hand-outs”) to get off the ground. Then proceeded to be the biggest annoying douchebag about it as he possibly could.

I’d also say, in a rational world, his COVID shenanigans both on social media and with Tesla employees would have him up on charges.

I’m often fond of the myth that every successful person or company never produced flops. Most successful companies produce all sorts of flops. The running joke is that every other version of Windows is a flop.

Bell Labs produced C, Unix, C++, but had all sorts of other disasters.
IBM had it’s share of flops.
Ford produced the Edsel.

What causes these companies to succeed is that they can fail.

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aatharuv Apr 25, 2022 • 2:44:16pm

re: #157 JC1

He started SpaceX and bought into Tesla VERY early.

He also helped out with starting Solar City (founded by his cousins), including giving them some of the initial ideas.

I’d say as far as various bilionaries goes, the side effects of what he is doing are doing are pretty good, regardless of what his personal motivations are.

If he can speed the rate of decarbonizing our Electric grid and Transportation infrastructure kudos to him. That’s critical if we want humanity to survive to the 22nd century.

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Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion Apr 25, 2022 • 2:45:21pm

re: #162 JC1

And yet, Bezos throwing many more billions into Blue Origin hasn’t yielded nearly as much. All those companies throwing billions into EVs still haven’t caught up to TSLA (they will eventually, the valuation is unsustainable). No one bats 1.000. how many people managed to run successful businesses in multiple different fields?

How many of those people are total assholes who want to let fascists take over Twitter, are known to have connections to Epstein, and got their employees killed by COVID while violating state health orders?

I’m failing to see why anyone is bending over backwards to defend this guy. Tesla is a product of government largesse.

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William Lewis Apr 25, 2022 • 2:47:37pm

re: #163 mmmirele

I’m there, under mirele. I absolutely DO NOT trust Musk.

Signed up under my usual wlewisiii to hold it. Don’t expect to use it much.

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Belafon Apr 25, 2022 • 2:48:07pm

re: #161 JC1

Gates was actually a solid developer in his early days. I knew people who worked at MSFT in the 90s. Gates still knew the intricacies of exactly how windows worked, and if you were presenting something and didn’t bring your A game, he’d know it and let you know it as well.

I don’t disagree with that, and I heard the stories as well. And we’re still haunted by his one true invention, MS Basic, every time we have to interact with Excel macros. But his success and wealth, by far, were driven by his ability to sell his product to others.

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John Hughes Apr 25, 2022 • 2:48:16pm

re: #15 Dopamine Fish

Oh Jesus H. Fucking Christ, our Republicans are now claiming the FRENCH rigged their elections.

The size of the conspiracy you’d need to rig French presidential elections boggles the mind.

There are about 36,000 communes on France. Each has at least one polling place. The vote totals for each polling place are posted outside when the count is finished (each polling place does is own count, the count bring largely done by people who volunteer during the voting process, supervised by local officials and representatives of the candidates). The totals are sent to the ministry of the interior via the local prefet where the final national result is totaled.

If you change the numbers sent up to the prefet then people would notice next day that the total outside the bureau de vote didn’t correpond to the total in the local newspaper, and so on up the chain.

How could you hide a fraud big enough to change the result by 16% (about 5 million votes)?

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Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion Apr 25, 2022 • 2:49:06pm

re: #158 Belafon

And Bill Gates and Steve Jobs were salesmen not inventors.

When he bought into them, as you say, they weren’t anywhere close to what they were after him. His “get it done and we’ll pay for it later” approach opened up the electric car market, put the US back in space, and has lead to Ukrainians having the internet during war.

It’s not a secret I viewed Steve Jobs with nothing but contempt. At least he wasn’t trying to put nazis in charge.

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William Lewis Apr 25, 2022 • 2:49:45pm

re: #169 Belafon

I don’t disagree with that, and I heard the stories as well. And we’re still haunted by his one true invention, MS Basic, every time we have to interact with Excel macros. But his success and wealth, by far, were driven by his ability to sell his product to others.

That and “DOS isn’t done till Lotus won’t run”.

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Belafon Apr 25, 2022 • 2:52:23pm

re: #167 Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion

How many of those people are total assholes who want to let fascists take over Twitter, are known to have connections to Epstein, and got their employees killed by COVID while violating state health orders?

I’m failing to see why anyone is bending over backwards to defend this guy. Tesla is a product of government largesse.

Mainly because your arguments apply to Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Henry Ford (yes, I know), Jeff Bezos, and just about everyone that has earned a lot of money, and a whole lot of people that haven’t made it as far as them.

Stick with calling him out for the crappy stuff he’s doing and not the stuff that just makes him a regular businessman.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Apr 25, 2022 • 2:53:38pm

re: #163 mmmirele

I’m there, under mirele. I absolutely DO NOT trust Musk.

gotcha there

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Crush White Nationalism Apr 25, 2022 • 2:54:49pm

(CNN)Plenty of people — members of Congress, former top White House aides — come out looking bad in the more than 2,000 texts sent and received by Trump chief of staff Mark Meadows between Election Day 2020 and January 20, 2021, obtained by CNN.
No one — and I mean NO ONE — looks worse than Rick Perry, however.
You remember Perry — the former Texas governor who served as the secretary of energy in former President Donald Trump’s White House.
What you may not remember is that CNN reported this about Perry back in December 2021:
“Members of the House Select Committee investigating the January 6 attack on the US Capitol believe that former Texas Governor and Trump Energy Secretary Rick Perry was the author of a text message sent to then-White House chief of staff Mark Meadows the day after the 2020 election pushing an ‘AGRESSIVE (sic) STRATEGY’ for three state legislatures to ignore the will of their voters and deliver their states’ electors to Donald Trump, three sources familiar with the House Committee investigation tell CNN.”

Why this former Trump official [Rick Perry] comes out looking absolutely terrible in the Mark Meadows texts (CNN - Unfortunately, Chris Cillizza)

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Belafon Apr 25, 2022 • 2:56:16pm

We could definitely have a major philosophical argument over why he’s not Richard Branson.

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Hecuba's daughter Apr 25, 2022 • 2:57:10pm

re: #141 Charles Johnson

My Twitter followers dropped by about 200.

One of the people I follow on FB announced this afternoon that she’s leaving twitter thanks to Elon.

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Dangerman Apr 25, 2022 • 2:57:13pm

re: #156 Charles Johnson

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a person can spend money they ‘earned’ on anything they like.
build cars, rockets, buy houses, yachts, islands.
no one else has to approve just because the numbers are ~~astronomical~~ huge.

though what could he do with a mere 10 of those billions. or a different, spare 10B
(yes i know about the UN thing)

How much housing could he have built, how many meals for starving families, how many children raised out of poverty or educated, if he spent that $44 billion on actually helping humanity? But we’re not supposed to ask that question of these narcissistic billionaires.

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) April 25, 2022

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BigPapa Apr 25, 2022 • 2:58:24pm

My deets because I wanted to lock the nic:

ekY5ZXNoQ25OYmlnNEtjMy8zYndwKy8zekFCMUpGcFpuYVVWT0lFUXdiZ21VM3RBdVlZeVpEa0xyMXRUNnZYLzB6cHcrZ1dmY2xxbGd2UGJLZ3ZPVER0WmpXS1NiQ1FRU1JQVkdkaWYwMllYOS9tZ0xkU3hNclRQdFN0U3ZKbDJNVFh2My9iUHdjRFNkWEZGRE1PdU52ZHhZNDF2Ty94NnFXM0ExZkFGMkxpakJLMW9HNGdPL2FrSjNIVTc1dXRUYlZ0K0NsVHRFMUZZNytra0hoL1Rlc0ZKTmZBSGptYVFWcW5LQjVHM1cyWmtqNno2UFBvNjhqbzdncE5YWDF3N2IzcGhmQkpJTXRiWGltd0RPZ3MvOENyc080V1JSOTJFVVdnS2V3K1BJVkE9Ojpdpunvijz2f8gwkntlXKU/

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Backwoods_Sleuth Apr 25, 2022 • 2:58:37pm

OK those planning to leave Twitter because of #TwitterTakeover. If the enemy is at your door are you going to hand them your keys? Stay and fight for all that’s good about this platform, don’t hand them victory on a plate!

— Graham Taylor (@Pottedhistory) April 25, 2022

this is one of my archeology tweeps

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The Squire of Logos Apr 25, 2022 • 2:58:50pm

re: #163 mmmirele

I’m there, under mirele. I absolutely DO NOT trust Musk.

Agreed. I am there under a variation on my Twitter moniker, GaryRP.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Apr 25, 2022 • 2:59:49pm

Musk has already suggested changes for Twitter, including relaxing content restrictions such as the ones that governed the ban of former President Donald Trump following the Jan. 6 Capitol insurrection. https://t.co/t42WQdfuW8

— The Associated Press (@AP) April 25, 2022

In a joint statement with Twitter, Musk said that he wants to make the service “better than ever” with new features, such as getting rid of automated “spam” accounts and making its algorithms open to the public to increase trust. https://t.co/6jdLeswtV9 pic.twitter.com/wDudoIOpmH

— The Associated Press (@AP) April 25, 2022

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Crush White Nationalism Apr 25, 2022 • 3:00:03pm

re: #180 Backwoods_Sleuth

this is one of my archeology tweeps

The enemy isn’t at the door. The enemy is the landlord, and now owns that door, if Elon delivers on anything that the hate-right wants.

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JC1 Apr 25, 2022 • 3:02:57pm

re: #177 Hecuba’s daughter

One of the people I follow on FB announced this afternoon that she’s leaving twitter thanks to Elon.

Shouldn’t we at least wait and see:
1) if the deal actually goes through.
2) if it does, what changes he’ll actually make and what effect those changes will have?

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The Pie Overlord! Apr 25, 2022 • 3:03:51pm

re: #83 Charles Johnson

Chuck C. Johnson is probably already trying to contact Musk to get his account back.

Do you think Vicious Babushka will be reinstated? Not that VB is interested but only in the name of fairness.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Apr 25, 2022 • 3:03:58pm

Bad millennium to be @MarkMeadows https://t.co/nX68pGo6f1

— Keith Olbermann (@KeithOlbermann) April 25, 2022

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Crush White Nationalism Apr 25, 2022 • 3:04:07pm

Now that Elon Musk is buying Twitter, the question for all of us is: Will he allow a Criminal who used this platform to lie and spread disinformation to try to overthrow the US Government to return and continue his Criminal activity? And if he does, how do we combat it?

— Rob Reiner (@robreiner) April 25, 2022

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The Squire of Logos Apr 25, 2022 • 3:04:59pm

re: #185 The Pie Overlord!

Do you think Vicious Babushka will be reinstated? Not that VB is interested but only in the name of fairness.

No offense to your late and lamented Twitter moniker, but I think those that are reinstated will be the ones that will make the most money for Twitter.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Apr 25, 2022 • 3:06:47pm

Feels like a Monday! 😂

🔊
tt/fjerry pic.twitter.com/gWMC0AQ3u2

— Jess 🌻 (@jessi_asli) April 25, 2022

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Belafon Apr 25, 2022 • 3:07:07pm

Speaking of SpaceX, the Dragon capsule with the four crew members returned to earth today. space.com

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The Squire of Logos Apr 25, 2022 • 3:07:13pm

re: #184 JC1

Shouldn’t we at least wait and see:
1) if the deal actually goes through.
2) if it does, what changes he’ll actually make and what effect those changes will have?

Nothing wrong with having a ‘Plan B’… or Plan 9 if things really get weird.

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mmmirele Apr 25, 2022 • 3:07:13pm

re: #125 darthstar

I don’t see anyone leaving Twitter because it’s now owned by Musk. It’s too much of a shit-show which is why most people are there in the first place.

I could see myself leaving Twitter, because it is bad for my mental health. And I know it. I know you all provide a good curated news feed in your comments, but I’d like more than one source.

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Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion Apr 25, 2022 • 3:07:55pm

Let’s see I have 44 billion burning a hole in my pocket. I could:

A) End world hunger and/or homelessness and be remembered as a hero for all eternity.

B) Buy Twitter so assholes can say the n-word.

“Better go with B.”

He’s a complete piece of shit.

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William Lewis Apr 25, 2022 • 3:08:42pm

re: #182 Backwoods_Sleuth

To anyone who believes one word of Musk: I have bridge to sell you. Cheap!

— Bill Barnett (@BillBar29495196) April 25, 2022

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Hecuba's daughter Apr 25, 2022 • 3:08:59pm

re: #175 Punish Domestic Terrorists

Why this former Trump official [Rick Perry] comes out looking absolutely terrible in the Mark Meadows texts (CNN - Unfortunately, Chris Cillizza)

As bad as Cillizza is, he’s no Maggie Haberman.

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Belafon Apr 25, 2022 • 3:09:24pm

re: #183 Punish Domestic Terrorists

The enemy isn’t at the door. The enemy is the landlord, and now owns that door, if Elon delivers on anything that the hate-right wants.

Let’s put it differently: if the enemy gets elected president, do you run or do you stay and fight?

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Charles Johnson Apr 25, 2022 • 3:09:58pm

When the right talks about “free speech,” it isn’t really freedom they’re talking about.

It’s license.

The license to attack, smear, harass, and stalk their enemies with complete freedom from consequences.

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) April 25, 2022

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JC1 Apr 25, 2022 • 3:11:11pm

re: #193 Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion

Let’s see I have 44 billion burning a hole in my pocket. I could:

A) End world hunger and/or homelessness and be remembered as a hero for all eternity.

B) Buy Twitter so assholes can say the n-word.

“Better go with B.”

He’s a complete piece of shit.

Unless he thinks that he could turn Twitter into a money making machine and make an extra 100B on it. Sadly, there’s not much money to be made in helping poor people.

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Grunthos the Flatulent Apr 25, 2022 • 3:11:14pm

In the midst of all the doom and gloom, Tomorrow’s Wordle passed with barely a nod.

Click to Reveal

Wordle 311 3/6

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Crush White Nationalism Apr 25, 2022 • 3:13:07pm

re: #195 Hecuba’s daughter

As bad as Cillizza is, he’s no Maggie Haberman.

No, but he was pretty bad about Trump, and they now put him on video, and his voice is as bad as Tucker Carlson’s.

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BigPapa Apr 25, 2022 • 3:15:30pm

re: #193 Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion

Let’s see I have 44 billion burning a hole in my pocket. I could:

A) End world hunger and/or homelessness and be remembered as a hero for all eternity.

B) Buy Twitter so assholes can say the n-word.

“Better go with B.”

He’s a complete piece of shit.

I heart this post.

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Crush White Nationalism Apr 25, 2022 • 3:15:46pm

re: #198 JC1

Unless he thinks that he could turn Twitter into a money making machine and make an extra 100B on it. Sadly, there’s not much money to be made in helping poor people.

He’s claimed that he can unlock Twitter’s potential. I think it’s the narcissism talking, but he may believe that buying Twitter is good business.

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Charles Johnson Apr 25, 2022 • 3:20:40pm

Now watch, after all this agita, Musk won’t change a thing about Twitter.

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) April 25, 2022

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Crush White Nationalism Apr 25, 2022 • 3:21:14pm

Romero kept making Living Dead movies for longer than I realized.

Land of the Dead (2005) features Dennis Hopper, Asia Argento, John Leguizamo, and Simon Baker, best known as The Mentalist.

I’m so desensitized that the gore is just boring.

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Charles Johnson Apr 25, 2022 • 3:28:13pm

Youtube Video

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bmoak Apr 25, 2022 • 3:28:30pm

re: #60 Punish Domestic Terrorists

She looks dangerously thin.

Teen with ‘longest legs in the world’ reaching new heights — on OnlyFans (without nudity) (NY Post)

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Looking at the size of hands and feet, I suspect she has Marfan’s syndrome.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Apr 25, 2022 • 3:35:53pm

Raw Story just followed me at CS

heh

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Eclectic Cyborg Apr 25, 2022 • 3:36:03pm

re: #206 bmoak

Looking at the size of hands and feet, I suspect she has Marfan’s syndrome.

I was thinking that earlier.

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Crush White Nationalism Apr 25, 2022 • 3:39:39pm

This is about when banned Fark users created an alternative “Free speech” site that went about as you would expect it to go.

I’m going to tell a tale about online speech, moderation, banning, and healthy websites.

Buckle up. 🧵👇 1/x

— 🥪 sandwich (@a_boss_sandwich) April 23, 2022

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Backwoods_Sleuth Apr 25, 2022 • 3:41:08pm

Chameleons always look like a kid who is trying to lie about something pic.twitter.com/sWRMSB9Ecg

— A Bearer Of Dad News (@HomeWithPeanut) July 21, 2021

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie Apr 25, 2022 • 3:41:49pm

Yikes! Common sense isn’t just dead in this country, it’s been cremated and Rand Paul is smoking the ashes in his Aqua Buddha bong.

— Lord Piltdown (@jimreynolds54) April 25, 2022

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Backwoods_Sleuth Apr 25, 2022 • 3:42:37pm

Your one-hour-old account, egg avatar, and awkward grammar have convinced me. pic.twitter.com/mEZ8UlQVDw

— Stonekettle (@Stonekettle) April 25, 2022

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Charles Johnson Apr 25, 2022 • 3:42:58pm

This is a real tweet, recently deleted, by the owner of Counter Social. Google still has it in their cache, from last January: webcache.googleusercontent.com

This was the day George Zimmerman was acquitted of murdering Trayvon Martin.

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Charles Johnson Apr 25, 2022 • 3:45:35pm

Google cache info:

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DodgerFan1988 Apr 25, 2022 • 3:46:03pm

Let’s be honest, the second Elon announces people can use the N-word on Twitter, everyone from Truth Central, Parler, & Gab will be flocking back

— LeGate (founder @ GoodPillow™) (@williamlegate) April 25, 2022

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Eclectic Cyborg Apr 25, 2022 • 3:47:39pm

re: #215 DodgerFan1988

I’ll most likely bail if TFG gets reinstated.

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Captain Ron Apr 25, 2022 • 3:49:15pm

Gazpacho Police. https://t.co/rgj3UgKy9v

— Tim O’Brien (@TimOBrien) April 25, 2022

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Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion Apr 25, 2022 • 3:51:26pm

SpaceX

In December 2021, claims of workplace sexual harassment from five former SpaceX employees, ranging from interns to full engineers, were published. The former employees allegedly experienced “unwanted advances.. uncomfortable interactions.” Additionally, the accounts included claims of a “culture of sexual harassment” existing at the company and one where complaints made to executives, managers, and human resources officers went largely unaddressed. One claimant stated she began to suffer panic attacks and ultimately resigned as a result; she specifically criticized Musk for his alleged role in “fostering a culture where burnout and misogyny are rampant.”

Former SpaceX workers say company has a culture of sexual harassment

Former Interns Say SpaceX Ignored Sexual Harassment

Five former SpaceX employees speak out about harassment at the company

An ex-engineer says she was harassed and groped at Elon Musk’s SpaceX ‘bros’ club’

Sexual harassment allegations at Tesla and SpaceX shed light on company culture under Elon Musk

Tesla

There’s literally too much for me to put here, just checkout the “Lawsuits and Controversies” section of their Wikipedia page.

It’s got it all from sexual harassment, racism, fraud, intellectual property theft, and COVID douchery.

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aatharuv Apr 25, 2022 • 3:52:04pm

re: #55 darthstar

Looks like Musk just bought Twitter.

counter.social

Anyone seeing slowness in getting their confirmation email when trying to sign up?

(I’m using a spam trap address on a server to which I have access to the mail logs, and have gotten other emails, but not this.)

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Decatur Deb Apr 25, 2022 • 3:53:22pm

re: #190 Belafon

Speaking of SpaceX, the Dragon capsule with the four crew members returned to earth today. space.com

That reads correctly as “One crewmember and three limo passengers”.

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Charles Johnson Apr 25, 2022 • 3:53:29pm

The more I learn about that dude the less I feel like using Counter Social.

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mmmirele Apr 25, 2022 • 3:56:32pm

re: #221 Charles Johnson

The more I learn about that dude the less I feel like using Counter Social.

I’m not thrilled about that Zimmerman tweet, but I’m going to give him a chance. I’m tired of getting beat up on Twitter. Seriously, I am tired of being told I’m going to hell.

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Eclectic Cyborg Apr 25, 2022 • 3:57:00pm

re: #218 Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion

Seems like pretty much every big company has a sexual harassment problem these days.

Not to malign the problem or any of the victims, I was simply commenting on how widespread and systemic the issue appears to be.

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Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion Apr 25, 2022 • 3:57:33pm

Oh this one is a real knee-slapper:

In October 2021, a jury verdict in the Owen Diaz vs. Tesla trial awarded the plaintiff $137 million in damages after he had faced racial harassment at Tesla’s Fremont facility during 2015-2016. In a blog, Tesla stressed that Diaz was never “really” a Tesla worker, and that most utterings of the n-word were expressed in a friendly manner. In April 2022, federal judge William Orrick upheld the jury finding of Tesla’s liability but reduced the total damage down to $15 million.

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Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion Apr 25, 2022 • 3:59:30pm

re: #223 Eclectic Cyborg

Seems like pretty much every big company has a sexual harassment problem these days.

Not to malign the problem or any of the victims, I was simply commenting on how widespread and systemic the issue is.

Yes but repeatedly I see people saying that the environment is fostered and encouraged by Elon Musk. It’s not going on despite him, it’s going on and he’s participating and making it worse.

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Eclectic Cyborg Apr 25, 2022 • 4:01:22pm

re: #225 Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion

Yes but repeatedly I see people saying that the environment is fostered and encouraged by Elon Musk. It’s not going on despite him, it’s going on and he’s participating and making it worse.

Which is bound to happen for any company whose C-suite is filled with entitled white guys.

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mmmirele Apr 25, 2022 • 4:02:58pm

re: #223 Eclectic Cyborg

Seems like pretty much every big company has a sexual harassment problem these days.

Not to malign the problem or any of the victims, I was simply commenting on how widespread and systemic the issue appears to be.

Over here at Too Big To Fail Financial Institution, of course we have sexual harassment, but I’m sure you remember how, a couple of years ago, our CEO said that there weren’t enough people of color available to promote into banking slots. This was at a private meeting, but it got leaked out a couple months later. I should note that on the tech side we don’t appear to have a race problem, but we’re still rather lacking in the women department.

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lawhawk Apr 25, 2022 • 4:03:21pm

re: #104 Charles Johnson

How much housing could he have provided, how many meals for starving people, how many children could he have raised out of poverty if he took that $44 billion and spent it on actually helping humanity?

These superrich think that donating a few million or even a few billion makes up for the fact that the distortion of the tax base is ruinous to everyone else.

They’d still be superrich if taxes were applied to their income and estates as in the heady days of the 1950s that these right wingers love to tout were idyllic (for reasons that have nothing to do with taxes, but everything to do with segregation and bigotry). These taxes would pay for programs that we always hear are too expensive to fund, when we can find a billion or trillion more to pay for military spending (like say a few billion for a new ship class, only to retire it a few years later because of problems).

Bake sales for books, but no problem finding the funds to pay for submarines and ships and missiles.

Musk doesn’t know what to do with the money he has - that’s how obscenely wealthy he is. He’s got wealth that makes Trump look like a pauper (well, because he is - compared to Musk). He’s doing vanity projects that feed his ego, even though he could put it to higher and better uses, like solving housing or energy or poverty. He could fund a new university from scratch with a billion dollar investment as easily as I could write a $100 donation. He could endow and make it free for all who attend.

He has so many options, but instead thinks that controlling a town square and speech is his play.

We’ll see how this plays out.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus Apr 25, 2022 • 4:03:44pm

I’ll just keep on pissing in the wind on twitter. I’ve no problem telling malicious idiots they are that.

Twitter makes money by selling advertisements and info. There is little money anyone can make off of me on Twitter.

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Decatur Deb Apr 25, 2022 • 4:06:11pm

Buying an opinion-forming institution like Twitter is pretty much like buying a major religious denomination. Pope Elon I.

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Florida Panhandler Apr 25, 2022 • 4:07:48pm

re: #197 Charles Johnson

The right wing’s rhetoric changes as needed to promote white supremacy. During the 70’s it was all about “personal responsibility”. You never hear that anymore. Because it was a fraud.

Then it was “keeping government out of business” in the Reagan 80’s.. you never hear that anymore. Because it was a fraud.

Now it’s “Freedom”… with NO responsibility and the right of government to directly harass and vilify businesses not 100% aligned with Republican politicians (looking at YOU DeSantis). Their “freedom” is 100% fraudulent.

Once they have 100% achieved their power goals starting 2025 they will drop any and ALL references to “freedom” and the rhetoric will drop any pretenses other than “us” and “them” … with the “them” to be diminished and eliminated.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Apr 25, 2022 • 4:08:27pm

More wonderful news. pic.twitter.com/XQTOOJDTmM

— Ron Filipkowski 🇺🇦 (@RonFilipkowski) April 25, 2022

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Captain Ron Apr 25, 2022 • 4:08:36pm

Indeed, the rebound is real and serious. Pfizer even mentioned about it in their FDA submission. Can’t believe the FDA and CDC still haven’t put out a major alert warning about this to the public!! Rebound positive can endanger folks. pic.twitter.com/YEKmNvL9PR

— Eric Feigl-Ding (@DrEricDing) April 23, 2022

When it first hit the market in December, the COVID-19 antiviral treatment, Paxlovid, was hailed as a game-changer, an effective medicine that kept at-risk people out of the hospital. But now some patients are reporting on social media an unusual and unnerving phenomenon: their COVID symptoms appear to rebound after taking the medication.

And it’s not just their symptoms that reappear. Many report that after finishing their five-day course of treatment, feeling better, and testing negative on an at-home rapid test, they then test positive again a few days later.

The issue has captured the attention of at least two teams of Boston-area scientists, who are trying to understand what might be fueling the problem. Resistance to the drug? Patients being quickly reinfected? Or maybe some people just need to take the medicine longer to mount a more effective immune response.

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Eclectic Cyborg Apr 25, 2022 • 4:12:56pm

re: #233 Dread Pirate Ron

Maybe some people just need to take the medicine longer to mount a more effective immune response.

This would be my guess.

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darthstar Apr 25, 2022 • 4:13:05pm

Be fun to watch this sucker in action.

ARCHER IS AN INSANELY FAST SHOOTING GUN. without leaving the cab it can fire 3 rounds and be gone in 60 second. https://t.co/N1U4bY0uDh

— Malcolm Nance (@MalcolmNance) April 25, 2022

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Crush White Nationalism Apr 25, 2022 • 4:13:11pm

These two Tweets were posted within 6.5 hours of each other. pic.twitter.com/nqqPUsnIT6

— Preston Shipp (@preston_shipp) April 25, 2022

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aatharuv Apr 25, 2022 • 4:13:31pm

re: #219 aatharuv

Anyone seeing slowness in getting their confirmation email when trying to sign up?

(I’m using a spam trap address on a server to which I have access to the mail logs, and have gotten other emails, but not this.)

When signing up for counter.social, and when I tried to get them to resend the email, something attempted to send an email from ip address 185.239.243.105
Which reverse resolves to moktrack.live

But moktrack.live as a domain doesn’t resolve (NXDOMAIN), so my normal mail server rules weren’t allowing it to send an incoming email.

I’m a little less confident about their ability to scale if they don’t even have reverse DNS for whatever server(s) they use to send outgoing email, let alone SPF and other modern DNS records for email servers.

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Belafon Apr 25, 2022 • 4:15:12pm

re: #221 Charles Johnson

The more I learn about that dude the less I feel like using Counter Social.

Maybe you should start Green Social.

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Crush White Nationalism Apr 25, 2022 • 4:16:26pm

re: #238 Belafon

Maybe you should start Green Social.

Maybe LittleGreen. Green makes me think of the crappy political party.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire Apr 25, 2022 • 4:17:20pm

by the board, but may still find enough significant push back from everyone else that it could derail the purchase. Something this big isn’t going to happen overnight or even next month. Just my 2 cents worth.

— Michele: Out of the closet. Into the fire (@michele_out) April 25, 2022

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Dangerman Apr 25, 2022 • 4:17:26pm

First bunny
Second sighting
First pic

Might be sideways

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Decatur Deb Apr 25, 2022 • 4:19:18pm

re: #235 darthstar

Be fun to watch this sucker in action.

Not from the front.

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Captain Ron Apr 25, 2022 • 4:22:51pm

2) “The major finding was that people with COVID-19 have a higher risk of all sorts of heart problems at one year. That included arrhythmias (irregular heart beats or the heart beating too fast or too slow) and atrial fibrillation (a fast heart rhythm in a particular pattern).

— Eric Feigl-Ding (@DrEricDing) April 25, 2022

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HRH Stanley Sea Apr 25, 2022 • 4:29:43pm

Ya’ll wanna hear about the LAMP???

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Backwoods_Sleuth Apr 25, 2022 • 4:31:06pm

re: #244 HRH Stanley Sea

so very VERY cool!

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course) Apr 25, 2022 • 4:50:11pm

re: #149 Belafon

Because BLM and Antifa aren’t idiots.

I would like to know more about why they avoided falling for this.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Apr 25, 2022 • 4:54:16pm

re: #246 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

I would like to know more about why they avoided falling for this.

They are not stupid. They can see a wingnut setup.

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sagehen Apr 25, 2022 • 5:05:39pm

re: #246 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

I would like to know more about why they avoided falling for this.

I don’t think this was the one and only (or even first) warning, but on the 4th and 5th Mayor Bowser went on all the socials, and the networks, and made personal phone calls to the local BLM organizers warning them something was up and telling them to steer clear.

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A Three Hour Tour Apr 25, 2022 • 5:18:08pm

re: #196 Belafon

Let’s put it differently: if the enemy gets elected president, do you run or do you stay and fight?

1.) He did … in 2016.
2.) None of us moved out of the country after November 2016.
3.) We tried to fight the enemy as best we could short of actual violence.
4.) We dealt him a setback in 2020.
5.) That’s why the Enemy forces are rigging the game in 2022.
6.) Some of us have been trying to hold the line against the theofascist authoritarian wing of the Republican party since the Carter/Reagan match in 1980.
7.) The Enemy has been successfully chipping away at that defensive line for 42 years.
8.) That line sustained a significant breach in 2016.
9.) The Enemy with help from our media, the courts they spent years capturing, and two opportunistic Democratic senators have been sabotaging efforts to repair the defensive line.
10.) How do you stop the damage Musk will do once he implements his policies on twitter? How does staying on Twitter actually stop Musk from enabling the worst of the worst?

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ckkatz Apr 25, 2022 • 5:25:01pm

re: #248 sagehen

Yes, I remember hearing requests from BLM, community and political leaders asking that there not be any counter protests. Additionally, the Proud Boys had already made a name for themselves looking for fights. And there did not seem to be any local feeling of need for fighting back in one of the most heavily policed spots in the US.

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CleverToad Apr 25, 2022 • 6:03:40pm

re: #244 HRH Stanley Sea

Ya’ll wanna hear about the LAMP???

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est) Apr 25, 2022 • 6:39:12pm

re: #244 HRH Stanley Sea

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